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11:10AM, Tue 8 April 2008

Torch Relay Protests

Our family has been watching the images on the TV with great interest over the last few days in regard to the torch relay protests.  My response is that the protests are a totally appropriate response to what we have seen in regard to Chinese / Tibet 'relations' on 2 counts as follows:

1/ A torch relay protest doesn't penalise the athletes, who in the past have been subject to boycotts of Games.  Whilst human rights offences far outweigh those of competing a sporting event; imagine your lifelong dream of representing your country squashed (quashed?), whilst non-athletes going about their 'normal' businesses are not subject to this.

2/ The torch relay is about unity and bringing countries together (i.e. the Olympic Spirit).  Where this spirit does not exist in the country staging the event, it is justifiable that the torch is also extinguished.

I actually think it is pretty gutsy to run the gauntlet to snuff out what in this case is a meaningless torch relay, especially with the fact that TV news is largely based on imagery these days.  Gutsy, especially when you understand the ramifications, especially from Chinese forces, who have been accompanying the torch on its journey into Europe.

The next phase of the relay is in San Fran - I heard on this morning's news that protesters have already scaled the golden gate bridge to hang protest banners - how far would you go for something you believe in?  Good luck to the protesters, I reckon and let's hope appropriate protests occur without violence.

What do you reckon - torch relay protests or games boycott - or none...or both?!

EXTRA READING

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23504778-5005961,00.html

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1728274,00.html?xid=feed-cnn-world

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11:54AM, Tue 8 April 2008
Don't disagree with you big fella, but it would be a bloody tradegy if someone (carrying the torch) is injured or badly hurt because of teh protests. Carrying the torch is a great honour for these people and the last thing they would have expected (or deserve) is being rushed and knocked to the ground. I couldn't care less if the flame is blown out, but it seems a huge contridiction if someone is hurt by a protester who is protesting over people being hurt!
Reply to The Yapper
 
12:01PM, Tue 8 April 2008
Well, the ball appears to be firmly in China's court so to speak. This has clearly become a global issue without democratic or diplomatic resolve, hence we see more protests, some violent.

I reckon the torch relay protests are terrific as long as physical harm is not caused. This is tarnishing the image of the Chinese government, and so it should, there is so much blood on their hands since the invasion of Tibet. This is the perfect opportunity for people to send them a message. If there is a boycott, then so be it, if the worst thing that happens as a result is the loss of revenue for people involved in the event, then that's a very small price to pay when weighed up against the heartache and trauma we've witnessed for almost 60 years as a result of the imperialistic actions of the Chinese Government.
Reply to Sam Fewster
 
12:10PM, Tue 8 April 2008
Soft answer Yapper. Take one for the team I say. If you are worried anout getting hammered while carrying the torch (which hasn't happened by the way) then don't carry it.

I entirely agree with my Blues brother. These high profile yet low impact protests are the perfect start to this battle. China were dreaming if they didn't think that the Games would give the world a chance to highlight their human rights abuses. This is only the start. Wait until Falun Gong get going. The Games (and the protests) must go on.
Reply to Hoody
 
12:13PM, Tue 8 April 2008
To compete or not to compete , What was the Question ,
In response to your comments Andy , sport should not be a platform for protest , i believe it should be what it is meant to be, sport for the world to compete in and watch . I don't know if you have been to china , but i went there once and will go back again and i dealt with some common chinese people , from what i could glean from my expierence was , China is not the communist country that every one is led to believe , It is not a religious country , they have a few temples here and there but they are not into religion like the western world is and lets face it religion is the cause of a lot of trouble ( don't get me started ) .

If you want to work in china , own a house , drive a car , etc etc then there is no one stopping you . China is a huge country with a huge population and all she is trying to do is educate and feed her people and give them a life , sure she does a few things wrong and yes she probably has some problems with certain things to do with life , but no one is perfect , and that includes the western world , which we are part of.

In answer to your ? NONE , i say let the games begin, or let the games Bejing.

I think people should go there and see for themselves and this is what China is trying to encourage , they are inviting the world to their place and if they have certain rules and customs then we should do our best to join in peacefully ,

We only hear about the bad ,sad, and awful things in this world and that is the Media , , there are a lot more good deeds done than bad but let's face it the Media runs this world and they tell us only what they choose .

If people choose to protest then do it peacefully and from a distance , the Falon Gong and others have been protesting for years but the media don't put it into the papers etc , now they have a world platform in the olympics the media will milk it for as much as they can , wait till the torch comes to Oz , just watch the media frenzy , it will be disgusting , the last thing that they want is a peaceful relay , that will not be news.

Sorry about the rant ,
Let the Games Bejing .
Reply to Dazza
 
12:26PM, Tue 8 April 2008
Dazza - in your response to 'sport should not be a platform for protest' comment, i'm sure the Tibetan people would respond by saying they have tried the 'more appropriate platforms' also, time and time again, without success.

Not sure what religion has to do with it. This is about invasion and long-standing suppression, it will not be swept under the rug. No one is perfect but people, and especially governments, should be held accountable for their actions. What goes around comes around and they can only blame themselves for whatever happens now. We can only hope no one gets hurt. If the Chinese Government did the right thing, this wouldnt be an issue.
Reply to Sam Fewster
 
02:44AM, Thu 10 April 2008
Archbishop Tutu says 'don't go' to the games full stop! Interesting opinions. Hard to ignore the facts about what has happened in Tibet...
Reply to Nick Maywald
 
07:26AM, Thu 10 April 2008
What happens in the Middle East , what hapens in Russia , what happens in Australia , what happens in the Americas what happens in Asia , What happens in all these places happens all the time all over the world since man took control of this planet and look what we have done to it , I still say LET THE GAMES BEJING . Peacefully , One thing the games do ,do for the world and that is it does help to unite for those days of competition the world .
Reply to Dazza
 
09:33AM, Thu 10 April 2008
i say LET THE GAMES BEJING also! my thought is that torch protests are an appropriate response as it doesn't affect the athletes (they are not used as pawns). and - i would still contend that unless protesters do something out of the norm, they won't get on TV! if they stand in the designated place waving a placard; that is hardly newsworthy these days - they will run the story about the car on fire on the freeway or a neighbours 'star' turning up to a film launch.
Reply to Andy Collins
 
10:18AM, Thu 10 April 2008
Hey there Andy , LET THE GAMES BEJING should be the catch phrase for these games , I see that the media say there were 10's of thousands of protesters in San Francisco , Not only protesting about Tibet or not TO Bet but also Darfor not sure on the spelling and what has that got to do with China ? what seems to be happening is that the world is going to protest about everything because of the exposure that the games will bring . What we really need to protest about are the massive big corparations ( spelling ) that run the world .
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